Warframe Mac So Idk

Numerous edits for clarity. 1 Share Report Save level 1 2 years ago I mean at tennocon 2017 Steve talking about Warframe mac so idk.

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As someone who has been and still is on both WinMac and who is a developer in Unity for both, there are some major hurdles porting from Windows to Mac.

And thats before you get into all the WinTel fanboy pissing that is to come.

They also have a really lax history of keeping their APIs current.

Right now they are pushing their own custom API MetalMetal2, and its okay.

But this means your game engine needs to be built to support Metal.

Its a lot of work for a very small ( 6 to 8 by browser stats, 3 on Steam) market.

And here is no assurance that Apple wont ADHD off and drop Metal in 5 years, as they done with other similar graphics pushes.

Apple is currently on x86-64 like the rest of the PC Market, which makes it easier to make cross-platform code for.

However that hasnt always been the case, and there are signs that Apple is going to move architectures again.

Likely ARM based.

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So you are a developer who isnt already making full 3D games for iOS, macOS is looking more and more unstable as a platform to develop for.

Warframes best chance at a port would have been 4 years ago, and even then the issue of converting the Evolution Engine over to OpenGLVulkan were a non-starter.

Now with Apple being 90s Apple again, going internal non-standard APIs and designs, the macOS market just does not look kind.

Even Blizzard, the once champion of MacOS game support had been slowly pulling away.

Which should tell you everything thats going wrong over there at Apple Loop.

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I think this is a bit pessimistic.

It would be more accurate, I think, to say that Apple is in a transitional state, playing catch-up.

So yeah, supporting the platform as a game developer right now is hard.

However, Id add a few observations to your post: OpenGLs architecture was optimal neither for games nor for modern graphics hardware; OpenGL was slow to adopt new technologies; and it was entirely unlike DirectXs graphics API.

Metal may still be coming along, but it looks and behaves a lot more like DirectX, so once its had a few more rounds of polish it should be much easier for developers familiar with DirectX to support than OpenGL was.

Unity already supports it, although Ill defer to your judgment on how completely or how well it does., Its really hard to fault Apple for going the internal, non-standard APIs and designs route, isnt it If you want your software to make the best use of your hardware, that level of control just makes sense.

Going proprietary worked for Microsoft, and going to an open standard didnt pan out so well for SGI, or Sun Microsystems, or OpenGL itself--the last only survives because its requiring pinpoint floating-point accuracy makes it indispensable for high-end CAD and architecture apps.

Apple is now in a position to make Metal one, as well, because it also runs on millions of iOS devices, and some of those--notably the iPad Pro--are already performance-competitive with conventional laptops.

I dont believe there are any performance issues preventing Warframe from running well on a modern iPad (where the obstacle would be the interface), or an AppleTV, which is just a console running iOS.

But for the next while, while their APIs and their toolchain are still being fleshed out There wont be very many games running natively on the Mac.

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